{"id":1621,"date":"2018-09-23T00:00:49","date_gmt":"2018-09-22T22:00:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/kpufo.eu\/sk\/?p=1621"},"modified":"2024-01-27T02:47:53","modified_gmt":"2024-01-27T01:47:53","slug":"tri-poznamky-ke-trem-velkym-namitkam-proti-tvrzeni-astrologie","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kpufo.eu\/sk\/index.php\/2018\/09\/23\/tri-poznamky-ke-trem-velkym-namitkam-proti-tvrzeni-astrologie\/","title":{"rendered":"T\u0159i pozn\u00e1mky ke \u201eT\u0159em velk\u00fdm n\u00e1mitk\u00e1m proti tvrzen\u00ed astrologie&#8220;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Reakce \u010dten\u00e1\u0159e na \u010dl\u00e1nek <em>dr. Grygara<\/em> v \u010dasopise <em>Dingir<\/em> \u010d.3\/2004<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><em>Dr. J. Grygar<\/em> se prolamuje do otev\u0159en\u00fdch dve\u0159\u00ed, kdy\u017e tvrd\u00ed, \u017ee starov\u011bc\u00ed astrologov\u00e9 nic netu\u0161ili o posunu tzv. jarn\u00edho bodu b\u011bhem stalet\u00ed. (Dingir 3\/2004, str. 98-99) O zemsk\u00e9 ose asi nev\u011bd\u011bli nic, ale precesn\u00ed pohyb podzimn\u00edho (\u010di jarn\u00edho bodu) znali a um\u011bli ho vypo\u010d\u00edtat, i kdy\u017e ho tak nenaz\u00fdvali. Nen\u00ed v\u016fbec nutn\u00e9 studovat Tetrabiblos Claudia Ptolemaia, (1) sta\u010d\u00ed jenom otev\u0159\u00edt Slovn\u00edk antick\u00e9 kultury (2) a vyhledat heslo Hipparchos z N\u00edkaie, abychom se dozv\u011bd\u011bli o p\u0159esnosti jeho v\u00fdpo\u010dtu. Mimochodem, v\u011bt\u0161\u00ed polovina astrolog\u016f na t\u00e9to planet\u011b (ti na D\u00e1ln\u00e9m V\u00fdchod\u011b) a tak\u00e9 nejm\u00e9n\u011b dvacet procent profesion\u00e1ln\u00edch astrolog\u016f v USA a jist\u011b nemen\u0161\u00ed po\u010det v Evrop\u011b pou\u017e\u00edv\u00e1 tzv. zv\u011brokruh konstelac\u00ed, kde se s precesn\u00edm pohybem zemsk\u00e9 rota\u010dn\u00ed osy implicitn\u011b po\u010d\u00edt\u00e1.<\/p>\n<p>Pokud jde o spor heliocentrick\u00e9 a geocentrick\u00e9 soustavy, p\u0159ipus\u0165me na chv\u00edli malou nads\u00e1zku: Dejme tomu, \u017ee v Egypt\u011b za 18. dynastie objevila kasta kn\u011bzi b\u011bhem vl\u00e1dy Amenhotepa IV. skute\u010dnou povahu planet\u00e1rn\u00edho syst\u00e9mu a \u017ee by se tato znalost v\u0161eobecn\u011b roz\u0161\u00ed\u0159ila. Co by se pak stalo s astrologi\u00ed? Pokud by si cht\u011bla uchovat existenci jako v\u011bda kr\u00e1lovsk\u00e1, kterou tehdy byla, musela by nezbytn\u011b prov\u00e9st geocentrickou transformaci pohyb\u016f planet. Z toho prost\u00e9ho d\u016fvodu, \u017ee ne\u017eijeme na slunci, ale na zemi. Tento d\u016fvod st\u00e1le trv\u00e1 a jist\u011b se jen tak nezm\u011bn\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-1920 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/kpufo.eu\/sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/horoskop1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"450\" height=\"485\" srcset=\"https:\/\/kpufo.eu\/sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/horoskop1.jpg 450w, https:\/\/kpufo.eu\/sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/horoskop1-278x300.jpg 278w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>N\u00e1mitka Dr. Ji\u0159\u00edho Grygara \u201ekv\u016fli neopakovatelnosti vz\u00e1jemn\u00fdch poloh planet&#8220;, a tud\u00ed\u017e nemo\u017enosti vyu\u017e\u00edt jak\u00e9koliv p\u0159ede\u0161l\u00e9 zku\u0161enosti p\u0159i v\u00fdkladu horoskopu, p\u016fsob\u00ed dost zvl\u00e1\u0161tn\u011b. Asi plyne z nepochopen\u00ed sam\u00e9 podstaty v\u011bci. Tedy interpretace vz\u00e1jemn\u00fdch poloh \u201eplanet&#8220; mezi sebou a k z\u00e1kladn\u00edm bod\u016fm v horoskopu v jist\u00e9 (definovan\u00e9) \u00fahlov\u00e9 toleranci a tak\u00e9 v z\u00e1vislosti na jejich poloze v Zodiaku. Proto\u017ee v\u0161ak zde neobhajuji astrologii, nebudu se pou\u0161t\u011bt do podrobn\u00e9ho v\u00fdkladu. Snad bychom si ale p\u0159ece jenom mohli p\u0159\u00e1t u tak erudovan\u00e9ho autora v\u011bt\u0161\u00ed vhled do problematiky, ke kter\u00e9 se tak kriticky vyjad\u0159uje.<\/p>\n<p>U posledn\u00ed n\u00e1mitky se zdr\u017e\u00edm trochu d\u00e9le. Kdybychom se ot\u00e1zali Dr. Ji\u0159\u00edho Grygara jako pracovn\u00edka v oboru element\u00e1rn\u00edch \u010d\u00e1stic, pro\u010d vlastn\u011b spin gravitonu m\u00e1 m\u00edt hodnotu 2, \u0159ekl by n\u00e1m, \u017ee tomu tak b\u00fdt mus\u00ed, jeliko\u017e rovnice, kter\u00e9 element\u00e1rn\u00ed \u010d\u00e1stice a jejich interakce popisuj\u00ed, jsou v dobr\u00e9m souladu se skute\u010dnost\u00ed. Bez ohledu na to, \u017ee existence gravitonu je\u0161t\u011b nebyla prok\u00e1z\u00e1na.<\/p>\n<p>Za takov\u00e9ho stavu v\u011bc\u00ed se nezb\u00fdv\u00e1 ne\u017e divit, pro\u010d se Dr. Ji\u0159\u00ed Grygar tolik zlob\u00ed, kdy\u017e se setk\u00e1 s tvrzen\u00edm astrolog\u016f, \u017ee \u00fahlov\u00e1 poloha planet v horoskopu jednotlivce m\u016f\u017ee nab\u00fdvat jenom jist\u00fdch hodnot, aby m\u011bla smyslupln\u00fd vliv na jeho charakter a n\u00e1sledn\u011b i na jeho osud. Astrologov\u00e9 netvrd\u00ed, \u017ee znaj\u00ed podstatu sil, kter\u00fdmi \u201eplanety&#8220; p\u016fsob\u00ed, ani rychlost, s jakou se tyto s\u00edly \u0161\u00ed\u0159\u00ed. Znaj\u00ed ale z tis\u00edcilet\u00e9 zku\u0161enosti jejich informa\u010dn\u00ed obsah. V\u011bd\u00ed tak\u00e9, \u017ee ka\u017ed\u00e1 \u201eplaneta&#8220; m\u00e1 krom\u011b sv\u00e9 vnit\u0159n\u00ed informace i ur\u010dit\u00e9 zabarven\u00ed, \u010di tonalitu v z\u00e1vislosti na poloze v zodiaku.<\/p>\n<p>Extrasol\u00e1rn\u00ed planety astrology netr\u00e1p\u00ed, proto\u017ee v\u011bd\u00ed, \u017ee na\u0161\u00edm domovem je tato slune\u010dn\u00ed soustava a v\u00fdznamn\u00fd vliv se d\u00e1 pozorovat jen u zn\u00e1m\u00fdch planet t\u00e9to soustavy. Nav\u00edc, i kdyby n\u011bjak\u00e1 extrasol\u00e1rn\u00ed planeta n\u011bjakou informaci mohla p\u0159en\u00e1\u0161et, d\u00e1 se p\u0159edpokl\u00e1dat, \u017ee by byla zcela p\u0159ekryta informac\u00ed, kterou nese mate\u0159sk\u00e1 hv\u011bzda. Stejn\u00e1 logick\u00e1 \u00favaha plat\u00ed i pro m\u011bs\u00edce na\u0161ich sol\u00e1rn\u00edch \u201eplanet&#8220;.<\/p>\n<p>\u0158\u00edci, \u017ee obhajoba fungov\u00e1n\u00ed astrologie je p\u0159\u00edm\u00fdm pop\u0159en\u00edm z\u00e1sad kritick\u00e9ho my\u0161len\u00ed, je velmi p\u0159ehnan\u00e9. Jedin\u00fdm krit\u00e9riem spr\u00e1vnosti ka\u017ed\u00e9 teorie je p\u0159ece praxe. Kdyby astrologie m\u011bla jenom zlomek prost\u0159edk\u016f, kter\u00e9 se vyd\u00e1vaj\u00ed t\u0159eba na teoretickou fyziku, mohla by systematicky prov\u00e9st statistick\u00e9 anal\u00fdzy desetitis\u00edcov\u00fdch soubor\u016f. Soukrom\u00e9 iniciativy na tomto poli p\u0159inesly velmi pozoruhodn\u00e9 v\u00fdsledky, (3), (4) i kdy\u017e pro euroskeptiky onen po\u010det soubor\u016f dat nebude asi nikdy dosta\u010duj\u00edc\u00ed a metody anal\u00fdzy dost dobr\u00e9. (5). Pokud jde ov\u0161em o pochopen\u00ed sil a jejich informa\u010dn\u00edho potenci\u00e1lu, kter\u00e9 \u201eplanety&#8220; p\u0159en\u00e1\u0161ej\u00ed, tak se nutn\u011b klade ot\u00e1zka, zda ono kritick\u00e9 v\u011bdeck\u00e9 my\u0161len\u00ed, se kter\u00fdm operuje Dr. Ji\u0159\u00ed Grygar, je adekv\u00e1tn\u00ed metodou k jejich zkoum\u00e1n\u00ed a pochopen\u00ed. Jist\u00fdm vod\u00edtkem by zde mohly b\u00fdt pr\u00e1ce <em>prof. Jean E. Charona<\/em>, kter\u00fd sv\u00e9ho \u010dasu shrom\u00e1\u017edil kolem sebe ty nejlep\u0161\u00ed mozky na poli matematick\u00fdch i spole\u010densk\u00fdch discipl\u00edn. (6)<\/p>\n<p>Nakonec bych cht\u011bl citovat zn\u00e1m\u00e9ho psychologa, kter\u00fd s astrologi\u00ed tak\u00e9 pracoval:<em> \u201eTandis que les sots instruits croyaient encore, il y a peu de temps, pouvoir railler l&#8217;astrologie comme si elle \u00e9tait disparue depuis longtemps, voici qi\u0165aujour\u010fhui celleci remontei la surface, tout pres des portes de nos universit\u00e9s, \u010fo\u00fa \u00e9lle \u00e9tait sortie il y a environ trois cents ans.&#8220;<\/em> (7)<\/p>\n<p><em>Jind\u0159ich Vachta, jvachta@tiscali.cz<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Literatura<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>(1) Ptol\u00e9m\u00e9e: Tetrabiblos. Vernal \/ Philippe Lebaud 1986.<\/em><br \/>\n<em>(2) Slovn\u00edk antick\u00e9 kultury. Nakladatelstv\u00ed Svoboda, Praha 1974. <\/em><br \/>\n<em>(3) Gauquelin, M., Gauquelin, F. (1972): Planeten und Charakterzuge . Zeitschrift fur Grenzgebiete der Psycho&amp;shy;logie 14, 12-36.<\/em><br \/>\n<em>(4) Gauqelin, M.: Les Personalit\u00e9s Plan\u00e9taires. Guy Tr\u00e9-daniel, Paris 1992.<\/em><br \/>\n<em>(5) Schneider-Gauquelin, F. (1993): A propos du 3 \u00e9me congr\u00e9s \u00abEuroskeptics\u00bb Les Cahiers du RAMS, l, 39-43.<\/em><br \/>\n<em>\u00a0(6) Charon, J. E.: L&#8217;Esprit et la Science, Colloque de F\u00e9s. Albin Michel, Paris 1983. <\/em><br \/>\n<em>\u00a0(7) Jung, C. G.: Probl\u00e9mes de L&#8217;Ame Modern\u011b, Buchet \/ Chastel, Paris 1960, p.181.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Z \u010dasopisu Dingir \u010d. 4\/2004,\u00a0mailto:dingir@dingir.cz, http:\/\/www.dingir.cz<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>P\u0159evzato se souhlasem redakce Dingiru<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Reakce \u010dten\u00e1\u0159e na \u010dl\u00e1nek dr. 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