{"id":72,"date":"2009-08-06T09:05:54","date_gmt":"2009-08-06T07:05:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/kpufo.eu\/sk\/wordpress\/index.php\/2009\/08\/06\/30\/"},"modified":"2024-02-26T01:25:24","modified_gmt":"2024-02-26T00:25:24","slug":"30","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kpufo.eu\/sk\/index.php\/2009\/08\/06\/30\/","title":{"rendered":"Z\u00e1hadn\u00fd Val obr\u016f"},"content":{"rendered":"

P\u00e1tr\u00e1me po z\u00e1had\u00e1ch tis\u00edce kilometr\u016f daleko a leckdy \u017eehr\u00e1me, jak je n\u00e1m to v\u0161echno nedostupn\u00e9.<\/strong><\/p>\n

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\u00a0Jednu velmi p\u011bknou a evidentn\u011b dostate\u010dn\u011b velkou z\u00e1hadu p\u0159itom m\u00e1me na Slovensku. Pro za\u010d\u00e1tek uv\u00e1d\u00edme\u00a0 informace shrom\u00e1\u017ed\u011bn\u00e9 slovensk\u00fdm badatelem Ing. J\u00e1nem Hurn\u00edkem<\/em>. Pokud v\u00edm, zat\u00edm z\u016fstaly bez ohlasu. Tak tedy. Na Slovensku existuje stavba, kter\u00e1 se naz\u00fdv\u00e1 Val obr\u016f<\/em>. Co je o n\u011bm dosud zn\u00e1m\u00e9?<\/p>\n

Um\u00edst\u011bn\u00ed<\/strong><\/p>\n

T\u00e1hne se od vrchu Sitno (1009 m.n.m.) ve \u0160tiavnick\u00e9m poho\u0159\u00ed dol\u016f na jih p\u0159es \u00fazem\u00ed obc\u00ed Pe\u010denice a Dudince a\u017e k\u00a0\u0159ece Ipe\u013a. Ing. Hurn\u00edk p\u0159edpokl\u00e1d\u00e1, \u017ee val se t\u00e1hl i nahoru na sever (p\u0159es \u017dilinu) a nekon\u010dil tedy po Sitnem. Pokra\u010doval tak\u00e9 dol\u016f na jih, do\u00a0 Ma\u010farska, za \u0159eku Ipe\u013a. Jasn\u011b rozeznateln\u00e9 stopy valu jsou na hrani\u010dn\u00ed \u00a0\u010d\u00e1\u0159e mezi okresy Levice a Zvolen, kter\u00e1 je zakreslena v\u00a0map\u011b v\u00a0ka\u017ed\u00e9m \u0161koln\u00edm atlase vydan\u00e9m p\u0159ed rozd\u011blen\u00edm \u010cSFR. Na t\u011bchto m\u00edstech jsou pr\u00fd kameny i spe\u010den\u00e9 dohromady. Dal\u0161\u00ed stopy valu jsou \u00fadajn\u011b vid\u011bt v\u00a0l\u00e1ze\u0148sk\u00e9 obci Dudince (okr. Krupina, v\u00fdchodn\u011b od Levic) a tak\u00e9 v\u00a0Ma\u010farsku za \u0159ekou Ipe\u013a. Tyto posledn\u00ed dv\u011b informace byly z\u00edsk\u00e1ny od dnes ji\u017e zesnul\u00e9ho obyvatele \u2013 pam\u011btn\u00edka\u00a0 obce Dudince. \u00a0Rozm\u011bry<\/strong> Budeme-li po\u010d\u00edtat tu nejkrat\u0161\u00ed mo\u017enou variantu, tj. trasu Sitno \u2013 hranice SR, potom je to vzdu\u0161nou \u010darou 65 km, v\u00a0re\u00e1lu asi tak 80 km. Val je patrn\u011b zna\u010dn\u011b rozpadl\u00fd, ale m\u00edsty (na hranici mezi okresy Levice a \u017diar nad Hronom) dosahoval \u0161\u00ed\u0159ky a\u017e 8 metr\u016f, co\u017e je tam pr\u00fd tak\u00e9 jasn\u011b patrn\u00e9.<\/p>\n

St\u00e1\u0159\u00ed valu<\/strong><\/p>\n

Ing. Hurn\u00edk pova\u017euje val za prehistorick\u00fd, kter\u00fd musel st\u00e1t je\u017e nejpozd\u011bji kolem roku 5000 p\u0159. n. l. (od\u016fvodn\u011bn\u00ed tohoto n\u00e1zoru viz d\u00e1le). Nejstar\u0161\u00ed zn\u00e1m\u00e1 zm\u00ednka o valu poch\u00e1z\u00ed z\u00a0listiny ze 13. st., kde se val naz\u00fdv\u00e1 Fossa giganteum, tedy Val obr\u016f.<\/p>\n

Archeologick\u00e9 n\u00e1lezy<\/strong><\/p>\n

V\u00a0bezprost\u0159edn\u00edm valu byla z\u0159ejm\u011b v\u00fdrobna kamenn\u00fdch seker a jin\u00fdch kamenn\u00fdch n\u00e1stroj\u016f a jejich sklady. To dokl\u00e1daj\u00ed\u00a0 bohat\u00e9 n\u00e1lezy t\u011bchto n\u00e1stroj\u016f v\u00a0Pe\u010denic\u00edch (dokl\u00e1d\u00e1 toto jm\u00e9no, \u017ee se tam n\u011bkdy n\u011bco peklo nebo speklo?) vyroben\u00fdch z\u00a0tam\u011bj\u0161\u00ed suroviny a jejich \u201esklad\u201c v\u00a0Malinovci u Santovky. Jsou datovany kolem roku 5000 p\u0159. n. l. a p\u0159i\u0159azeny k\u00a0ma\u010farovsk\u00e9 kultu\u0159e.<\/p>\n

\"valobrow\"<\/p>\n

N\u00e1zory odborn\u00edk\u016f a dal\u0161\u00ed prameny<\/strong><\/p>\n

Zm\u00ednky o Valu obr\u016f se nach\u00e1zej\u00ed ve vlastiv\u011bdn\u00fdch sborn\u00edc\u00edch obc\u00ed Dudince a Pe\u010denice, n\u011bco by snad bylo mo\u017en\u00e9 dohledat i v\u00a0muzeu v\u00a0Levic\u00edch. V\u00a0Archeologick\u00e9m \u00fastavu Slovensk\u00e9 akademie v\u011bd <\/em>v Nit\u0159e, kter\u00fd Ing. Hurn\u00edk osobn\u011b n\u011bkolikr\u00e1t nav\u0161t\u00edvil, tam\u011bj\u0161\u00ed odborn\u00edci o Valu obr\u016f nev\u011bd\u011bli a vlastn\u011b je ani nezaj\u00edmal. \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

Dal\u0161\u00ed souvislosti<\/strong><\/p>\n

Valy a zdi byly velmi obl\u00edben\u00fdm obran\u00fdm prost\u0159edkem na mnoha m\u00edstech na\u0161\u00ed planety. Sta\u010d\u00ed p\u0159ipomenout velkou \u010d\u00ednskou ze\u010f nebo \u00fadajnou peru\u00e1nskou velkou ze\u010f. Ing. Hurn\u00edk p\u0159ipom\u00edn\u00e1 tyto analogie: \u00a0Bible, Star\u00fd z\u00e1kon \u2013 ze\u010f (val) egyptsk\u00fdch kn\u00ed\u017eat – <\/em>nikde dosud nebyla objevena. Cht\u011bla jsem uv\u00e9st p\u0159esnou citaci, ale nepoda\u0159ilo se mi ji ve Star\u00e9m z\u00e1kon\u011b naj\u00edt. \u00a0\u0158eck\u00e1 mytologie<\/em> – jsou zde zm\u00ednky i n\u011bjak\u00e9 bl\u00ed\u017ee neur\u010den\u00e9 velk\u00e9 zdi, snad m\u011blo j\u00edt o obranou ze\u010f mezi At\u00e9nami a Pireem. Tak\u00e9 dosud neobjevena. \u00a0H\u00e9rodotos <\/em>– v\u00a0souvislosti se Skythy uv\u00e1d\u00ed, \u017ee existoval \u201eval slepc\u016f\u201c, kter\u00fd postavili zajatci oslepen\u00ed proto, aby nemohli ut\u00e9ct.<\/p>\n

Teorie Ing. Hurn\u00edka<\/strong><\/p>\n

Z\u00e1kladn\u00edm kamenem t\u00e9to teorie je fakt, \u017ee zpr\u00e1vy o nejstar\u0161\u00edch d\u011bjin\u00e1ch lidstva se dochovaly na Island\u011b v\u00a0podob\u011b prad\u00e1vn\u00fdch zp\u011bv\u016f eddy. Staroisland\u0161tinu, ve kter\u00e9 jsou zaps\u00e1ny, pova\u017euje za poz\u016fstatek hypotetick\u00e9ho prajazyku lidstva, kter\u00e9mu je tak\u00e9 velmi bl\u00edzk\u00e1 sloven\u0161tina (ne-li mu je\u0161t\u011b nakonec je\u0161t\u011b bli\u017e\u0161\u00ed ne\u017e staroisland\u0161tina). Ing. Hurn\u00edk p\u0159edpokl\u00e1d\u00e1, \u017ee d\u011bje a p\u0159\u00edb\u011bhy Eddy se odehr\u00e1ly v\u00a0prostoru dne\u0161n\u00edho Slovenska a hymnick\u00e9 zp\u011bvy se dostaly na Island (a d\u00e1l) tehdy, kdy\u017e p\u016fvodn\u00ed obyvatel\u00e9 museli svoji p\u016fvodn\u00ed vlast opustit. To se stalo je\u0161t\u011b v\u00a0dob\u011b, kdy u nich neprob\u011bhla neolitick\u00e1 revoluce, nebo\u0165 staroisland\u0161tina nezn\u00e1 \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e9 agronomick\u00e9 term\u00edny. Muselo tedy b\u00fdt je\u0161t\u011b p\u0159ed rokem 5000 p\u0159.n.l., kdy\u017e u\u017e je na Slovensko dolo\u017eeno polnohospod\u00e1\u0159stv\u00ed. Val obr\u016f, o n\u011bm\u017e se v\u00a0Edd\u011b vypr\u00e1v\u00ed, je tedy star\u00fd nejm\u00e9n\u011b 7000 let. V\u00a0Edd\u011b, konkr\u00e9tn\u011b v\u00a0p\u00edsni o Vaftrudnim, se toti\u017e p\u00ed\u0161e: \u201eVingrid je val, kde budou bojovat Surtr (co\u017e je obr) a bohov\u00e9, sto m\u011b\u0159\u00ed mil ka\u017ed\u00fdm sm\u011brem\u2026\u201c Ing. Hurn\u00edk z\u00a0toho dovozuje, \u017ee val skute\u010dn\u011b postavili ob\u0159i, kte\u0159\u00ed kdysi d\u00e1vno, v\u00a0dob\u011b, kdy se odehr\u00e1valy p\u0159\u00edb\u011bhy Eddy, na Slovensku skute\u010dn\u011b \u017eili. Jakkoliv to m\u016f\u017ee zn\u00edt t\u011b\u017eko uv\u011b\u0159iteln\u011b, n\u011bkter\u00e9 sou\u010dasn\u00e9 n\u00e1zvy se daj\u00ed p\u0159ipojit k\u00a0t\u011bm z\u00a0Eddy kupodivu dob\u0159e. Severn\u00edm hrani\u010dn\u00edm bodem byla vstupn\u00ed br\u00e1na do \u201ezem\u011b obr\u016f\u201c jm\u00e9nem Varinsfjord \u2013 dne\u0161n\u00ed Var\u00edn, val potom pokra\u010doval na Sitno a na jih a\u017e do \u0160\u00e1h\u016f, d\u0159\u00edve naz\u00fdvan\u00fdch Saag (v Edd\u011b Sagafjord).<\/p>\n

A jsou zde je\u0161t\u011b dal\u0161\u00ed pozoruhodn\u00e9 \u201ez\u00e1chytn\u00e9 body\u201c- Obr Surtr \u017eil v \u201ezem\u00ed ohn\u011b\u201c, odkud m\u011bl vzej\u00edt ohe\u0148, kter\u00fd zni\u010d\u00ed cel\u00fd sv\u011bt. Krajina p\u0159ipom\u00ednaj\u00edc\u00ed sv\u00fdm charakterem Yellowstone kdysi existovala v\u00fdchodn\u011b od Levic. Poz\u016fstatek d\u0159\u00edv\u011bj\u0161\u00ed \u017eiv\u011bj\u0161\u00ed sope\u010dn\u00e9 \u010dinnosti jsou tam\u011bj\u0161\u00ed tepl\u00e9 prameny, krom\u011b jin\u00e9ho i v\u00a0Dudinci. Konec konc\u016f, i Val obr\u016f je \u00fadajn\u011b poznamen\u00e1n ohn\u011bm, kter\u00fd, alespo\u0148 m\u00edsty, spekl jeho kameny. Zaj\u00edmav\u00e9 jsou tak\u00e9 \u010detn\u00e9\u00a0eddick\u00e9 zm\u00ednky o kamenn\u00fdch seker\u00e1ch jako p\u0159edm\u011btu tehdej\u0161\u00edho obchodu. I to odpov\u00edd\u00e1 nedalek\u00fdm archeologick\u00fdm n\u00e1lez\u016fm. Ing Hurn\u00edk sv\u016fj obs\u00e1hl\u00fd rozbor uzav\u00edr\u00e1 konstatov\u00e1n\u00edm, \u017ee slovensk\u00fd Val obr\u016f je prvn\u00edm stavebn\u00edm d\u00edlem opsan\u00fdm v\u00a0literatu\u0159e a \u017ee je star\u0161\u00ed ne\u017e egyptsk\u00e9 pyramidy. P\u0159istoup\u00edme-li na jeho argumenty, m\u016f\u017eeme p\u0159ipustit, \u017ee je star\u0161\u00ed ne\u017e 7. tis. let. Vzhledem k\u00a0nejist\u00e9 dataci egyptsk\u00fdch pyramid je v\u0161ak obt\u00ed\u017en\u00e9 tvrdit, kter\u00e1 z\u00a0obou t\u011bchto pam\u00e1tek je star\u0161\u00ed. Jako posledn\u00ed d\u016fkaz spr\u00e1vnosti sv\u00e9 teorie uv\u00e1d\u00ed Ing. Hurn\u00edk fakt, \u017ee na Slovensku byly skute\u010dn\u011b objeveny poz\u016fstatky obr\u016f, a to u \u0159eky Ipe\u013a u \u017delovc\u016f (u Velk\u00e9ho Krt\u00ed\u0161e). Dokl\u00e1d\u00e1 to citac\u00ed knihy Pavla Dvo\u0159\u00e1ka: Odkryt\u00e9 d\u011bjiny \u2013 D\u00e1vnovek\u00e9 Slovensko, str. 205: \u201eOdkr\u00fdvali dal\u0161\u00ed hroby, jeden za druh\u00fdm a v\u00a0nich des\u00edtky obrovit\u00fdch mu\u017e\u016f, nejedna z\u00a0koster m\u011b\u0159ila 205 cm.\u201c Bojovn\u00edci byli poh\u0159beni v\u00a0pln\u00e9 zbroji a se zbran\u011bmi. Nejmlad\u0161\u00edmu z\u00a0nich nebylo v\u00edc ne\u017e p\u011bt let. Ve v\u011bt\u0161in\u011b hrob\u016f byly poh\u0159beny \u017eeny. Ofici\u00e1ln\u00ed v\u011bda datuje (nejsp\u00ed\u0161e velmi pravd\u011bpodobn\u011b) tyto n\u00e1lezy do 7-8. st. n. l.<\/p>\n

Encyklopedie archeologie uv\u00e1d\u00ed, \u017ee to je druh\u00e9 nejv\u011bt\u0161\u00ed poh\u0159ebi\u0161t\u011b z\u00a0avarsk\u00e9 doby na Slovensku. Osada, ke kter\u00e9 pat\u0159ilo, byla opatrn\u011b osadou str\u00e1\u017en\u00ed. O mimo\u0159\u00e1dn\u011b vysok\u00e9m vzr\u016fstu \u201estr\u00e1\u017ec\u016f\u201c se encyklopedie ale nezmi\u0148uje. Pro\u010d tak\u00e9 tak neobvyklou informac\u00ed zat\u011b\u017eovat odborn\u00e9 d\u00edlo, \u017ee. P\u0159ipustit, \u017ee tito str\u00e1\u017eci a p\u0159\u00edpadn\u011b i sou\u010dasn\u00ed sloven\u0161t\u00ed basketbalist\u00e9, p\u0159\u00edpadn\u011b tam\u011bj\u0161\u00ed \u201ejun\u00e1ci urostl\u00ed jako tatransk\u00e9 jedle\u201c mohou b\u00fdt potomky d\u00e1vn\u00fdch obr\u016f, n\u011bkdej\u0161\u00edch stavitel\u016f Valu obr\u016f, je pouze ot\u00e1zkou\u00a0 jedn\u00e9 odv\u00e1\u017en\u011bj\u0161\u00ed spekulace. O t\u011bchto neobvykl\u00fdch hypot\u00e9z\u00e1ch a spekulac\u00edch m\u016f\u017eeme diskutovat t\u0159eba donekone\u010dna. Nic to v\u0161ak nem\u011bn\u00ed na tom z\u00e1kladn\u00edm faktu. Na Slovensku existuje jist\u00e1 z\u00e1hadn\u00e1 stavba, o kter\u00e9 nev\u00edme t\u00e9m\u011b\u0159 nic.<\/p>\n

Jitka Lenkov\u00e1<\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 Zdroj:\u00a0\u00a0<\/strong>\u00a0Z\u00a0\u010dasopisu Klubu psychotroniky a UFO <\/em>ZAZ \u010d. 4\/2003\u00a0<\/span> Viz tak\u00e9 : Pe\u010denick\u00fd obrann\u00fd val<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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